<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Amen.<div><br><div><div>On Dec 2, at 4:20:PM, Carlos Wagner &lt;<a href="mailto:elcwagner@gmail.com">elcwagner@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Hopefully, Juan is right, meaning 2014... &nbsp;I see everybody apart from Andrey&nbsp;</div><div>is very optimistic about Dark Matter discovery. &nbsp;I am not betting this time, but&nbsp;</div><div>I believe in 2015 we shall start seeing missing energy signals at the LHC :)</div><div>Maybe Dark Matter will be discovered by then. To really say that these signals</div><div>are Dark Matter we will need to find consistency with some Direct Dark Matter</div><div>detection experiment results.</div><div><br></div><div>Best, &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Carlos</div><div><br></div><div>On Dec 2, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Juan I. Collar wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">
2014 is the year (but I won't say how or why)
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<div>On Dec 2, at 1:43:PM, "David W. Miller" &lt;<a href="mailto:David.W.Miller@uchicago.edu">David.W.Miller@uchicago.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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absolutely not, Juan. I am convinced that you're bribing John and Dave already, you're definitely not holding the money.
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<div>On Dec 2, 2013, at 13:38 , Juan I. Collar wrote:</div>
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Am I the bookie?
<div>(keep in mind I am traveling to Brazil soon, and if the loot is enough, I may just disappear...)</div>
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<div>On Dec 2, at 1:20:PM, "Henry J. Frisch" &lt;<a href="mailto:frisch@hep.uchicago.edu">frisch@hep.uchicago.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 13:10:35 -0600<br>
From: John Alison &lt;<a href="mailto:John.Alison@cern.ch">John.Alison@cern.ch</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href="mailto:seminars@hep.uchicago.edu">seminars@hep.uchicago.edu</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Seminars] [HEP Lunch] No speaker, but still meet at noon.<br>
Results of Dark Matter Pool:<br>
(Ante is $10 each.)<br>
Payable to closest year upon "reasonable" confirmation.<br>
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John A + David S: &nbsp;2015 (COUPP)<br>
David M: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2015 (LHC)<br>
Lauren + Jim : &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2016 (LHC: mono-jet)<br>
Henry: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2017 (axion)<br>
Frank: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2017<br>
Jon R: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2019 (axion)<br>
Richard: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2020 (CTA)<br>
Andrey: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wont know before 2025<br>
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 AM, John Alison &lt;<a href="mailto:John.Alison@cern.ch">John.Alison@cern.ch</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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&nbsp;We've had two interesting suggestions for discussion topics:<br>
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1) &nbsp;Recent evidence (&gt;4 sigma) for Higgs to tau tau production from ATLAS<br>
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<a href="https://atlas.web.cern.ch/Atlas/GROUPS/PHYSICS/CONFNOTES/ATLAS-CONF-2013-108/">https://atlas.web.cern.ch/Atlas/GROUPS/PHYSICS/CONFNOTES/ATLAS-CONF-2013-108/</a><br>
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2) &nbsp;Dark Matter Bets (wages and reasons for)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a) date of discovery<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;b) mass<br>
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(Of course there will be a 10% house rake for seminar organizers)<br>
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:43 AM, John Alison &lt;<a href="mailto:John.Alison@cern.ch">John.Alison@cern.ch</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;We had difficulties finding a speaker given the recent holiday.<br>
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We'll meet for lunch nonetheless and have an informal discussion of<br>
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Feel free to suggest a discussion topic.<br>
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University of Chicago<br>
5640 S. Ellis Ave., LASR 214<br>
Chicago, IL 60637<br>
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