From: FNALD::ALBROW 12-JAN-1998 09:36:41.21 To: ALBROW TOBACK FRISCH CC: Subj: gamma gamma paper Dear Dave and Henry, I finally get to read the very nice gamma gamma paper. ** Thank you I just have the following little questions/comments: (excuse me if answers are in notes, but readers will not have access to them) 1) p5 para 3. The fraction of events...two prompt photons... is measured to be 15 +- 4%. How is that known, and what is the breakdown of the other 85%? ** A good question. We did not have space in the PRL to address this issue. This is discussed in detail in CDF Note 4183 (section 5) and in the CDF photon literature. It is measured using the standard CES/CPR method developed by the photon group (see the references in 4183). The method estimates that ~52% of the events are such that both photon candidates are fakes (pizeros, etas etc) ~33% which have one real photon, the rest (~15 percent) are two photon events. 2) next line: "We search the diphoton CANDIDATE events" as 85 % are not really. ** Fair enough. We think that given the preceeding lines this is fairly clear. For literary reasons we have left it as is. 3) p.6 you say "0 events with 3 or more jets, with 1.7 +- 1.5 expected. Something wrong here? (a) only 0.5 events are expected with 2 or more jets so how can we have 1.7 with 3 or more? (b) table shows 0.1 +- 0.1 expected, apparently for the same condition. ** There are the main counting experiments with uses all photons above 12 GeV. We also present results for both photons above 25 GeV. For all photons with Et>12 GeV, we expect 1.6 events expected with 4 or more jets; 2 are observed. For two photons with Et>25 we expect 1.7 events with three or more jets, with zero observed. The table only discusses the full sample. 4) Although we do not remark on it, the condition in Table 1 with 3 Obs and 0.3 +- 0.1 expected is also rather unlikely. I did not convolute the poisson with the gaussian on 0.3, but the poisson for 0.3 --> >= 3 is a 0.36% probability. 0.4 --> >= 3 is 0.79%. ** You are correct that it is a small probability for 0.3 to fluctuate to 3 events. However, we do comments on this rather explicitly by telling the reader that these are very clearly Standard Model backgrounds. The backgrounds are Wgamma and Zgamma (mostly Zgamma), there appears to be 2 Zgamma events in our data. 0.3 fluctuating to 2 is not so bad. Futhermore, as pointed out in the CDF Notes, when we push the ET threshold to 25GeV we expect 0.2 event (dominated by Zgamma fakes) and we observe no Zgamma candidates which look like Zgamma (i.e, only the eeggmet event passes the lgammagamma cuts). So we have a fluctuation up and a fluctuation down. 5) middle p.8 ...jets which fake electronS and/or ... ** Ooops. You are correct. Done. 6) p.8 last full para (my ignorance?) is the gravitino not considered to be a neutralino? ** That is correct. The neutralinos are the supersymmetric partners on the neutral bosons (Z,gamma and neutral Higgs's). 7) All the credit for SPYTHIA is given in refs to Mrena. Is this right? ** The updated SPYTHIA reference contains only his name. It has the appropriate PYTHIA references within it. Cheers, Mike